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Introduction

An Interview With
Dominique De Vos, Koen Pattyn and
Peter De bosschere
of
DIAMOND DOGS

Conducted as an e-mail correspondence in May 1998 by
Michael Lund for Last Sigh Magazine


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Last Sigh
:  Could you briefly present yourselves; tell us a little about who you are, and what your roles in Diamond Dogs are.

Dominique:  My name is Dominique De Vos, I'm the singer of Diamond Dogs. When we play, I only do vocals, but on our first demo I also played keyboards, guitar and did some drum programming and sequenzing. Everybody in the band calls me "Do" (the "o" pronounced as in "so"). Filip Beyens is the guitar player in Diamond Dogs. He's also the only one who hasn't got connection to the internet. On the demo he played keyboards too, and did drumprogramming & sequenzing. We never call him Filip, we just say "File" (the "i" pronounced as "ee"), which was the little word game we used to call our demo "File Under God". So, to us this title has two meanings.

Koen:  I am Koen Pattyn; I play keyboards and samplers on the new demo. We've made most of the tracks at my home with a computer as sequencer. My name is German, and is pronounced like "coCOON".

PeterPeter De Bosschere; I play digital drums & percussion in the band, and I also take care of all the backing vocals. For the new songs I also do some drumprogramming.

Last Sigh:  How long have you been involved in music? Do you have any formal training? And, what led you to form Diamond Dogs?

Dominique:  I have been "active" in music for about 12 years. I've had no musical training except for some vocal lessons from a jazz singer. I've played in several bands so far, but I don't suppose you'll know any of them -- Axel, Daydream Project, Ure Crow, and Supergizmo (in which I still play as singer/guitar player). File has been busy with music for about eight years, I guess. His training was listening to records and then trying to repeat the guitar parts. He and I played together in Daydream Project.

Koen:  I studied classical music in high school. In the beginning I played horn and piano, but for the past 5 years I've been into synths and samplers. I've played everything from jazz to Beethoven, and from Beethoven to Techno. Diamond Dogs is my first band, who really plays hard.

Peter:  I have been playing drums for about 17 years now . I started playing drums when I was 10 years, and took some private lessons with a famous Belgium drummer (Stoy Stoffelen ), and started my first band when I was 13. Since that time I have played in a lot of bands, mostly rock bands, but also disco, metal, reggae,funk,punk,......
I met Do when I was 17, and we played together in the metal band Axel, after that we started the band Daydream Project together with File on guitar. Now, I'm still in the band Supergizmo, and I have also played in the bands: Dry Livers, Thou, Derek & the Dirt, Plastic Pigs, Santé Mijn Ratse, Loonie and Weez!. . .This is the first time I'm playing digital drums in a band.

Last Sigh:  What is the music scene like where you come from? Is it conducive to Diamond Dogs' music?

Dominique:  I don't have the impression that there is a large scene here in Belgium that we can connect to. I feel like we fall between chairs. We're still trying to figure out in what scene we belong. We haven't got that many press reactions yet, but the ones we got so far were cool. Some press really seem to hate us, or completely ignore us, and other (mostly alternative and underground) press say that we've made a very promising debut demo. We've never had a reaction in between so far, which is ok with us.

Last Sigh:  What music do you personally like to listen to? How does or doesn't this reflect in the music you write as Diamond Dogs?

Dominique:  I listen to all music which can reflect the various moods I can be in. That covers fifties doo-wop as well as industrial metal. I'm not sure yet about those influences on Diamond Dogs music. When we made our first demo ("File Under God"), we didn't know a lot about this electro-industrial scene. We made something out of the blue, and afterwards it appeared that we connected to this electro-industrial scene. It was only afterwards that we discovered bands like Treponem Pal, Chemlab, Die Krupps, etc. I did know stuff like Nine Inch Nails and Ministry, though. So, maybe we're working backwards.

Koen:  If I have to mention a classical composer, it will be Stravinsky. In the past 2 years I have listened to all kinds of Electro-Dance music.

Peter:  I listen to almost every kind of music, but I like rock music most. As a drummer I used to hate anything with a drum computer (times change).

Last Sigh:  What inspired the name Diamond Dogs? (Any big Bowie fans in the band?)

Dominique:  The Bowie link is correct. We loved the sound of the name. Also, we kinda liked the link to this glamour period which has a little escapist edge to it. But, we don't feel musically inspired by glamrock.

Last Sigh:  How do you typically write your material? Is it a group effort? Who contributes what?

Dominique: It always starts out as a solo effort, but then we start, all four of us, to put all the pieces together. We never make songs at rehearsals (we don't really "rehearse" in the classical way either). For instance, File came up with the loop and guitar riff for "D.U.S.T.", then I took the midi-file home and continued working on it on my pc -- looking for a vocal, and finishing the structure.
Now, as a four-piece band, we all come up with pieces. Then we put them on tape, or on midi-file, and pass them on so we can all contribute our stuff. It now usually ends at Koen's, because he uses a sampler and sequence program to put everything into place.

Last Sigh:  Does this work method present problems for you, when you perform live? How often do you actually meet to practice together then?

Dominique:  The problem that might occur is that we have no limits when we create

new material, but when we start rehearsing, we sometimes have to shift, because we cannot do it all (if we want to keep the bigger part of our performance live). We get together once or twice a week, but not necessarily the whole band. Those, who participate (sometimes all of us, sometimes a couple of us in any combination), come together and experiment with sounds and structures. When we put the actual song together, all four of us are present (so much for dictatorship in music). We've recently started to actually practice again. Until now, we only had the songs of the demo, so rehearsing couldn't take us very far. But now, we almost have a full live set. So about once a week, we get together in our rehearsal room (the one for our other band Supergizmo, actually) to try out our new material. We put synths, samples, percussion and vocals through our sound system (a Spirit Soundcraft - 10 channels), and File blows us away with his (what else) Marshall. We also use a DAT-tape for the stuff we can't play "live" (samples, basses, ...), but as we move on, we find that we have to put less and less on DAT. The art of "less is more" I suppose.

Last Sigh:  Your press release states that your present compositions are moving closer to industrial/electro; what inspired this change of sound?

Dominique:  The fact that we became a four piece band after the release of our first demo (which was made by File and I) made that change possible. We wanted to do this earlier, but we didn't have the possibilities and knowledge. So, we started looking for people who were interested, and who could add that extra touch.

Last Sigh:  Does the new material retain the humor of the first demo, or are you becoming a more "serious" band along with the change in sound?

Dominique:  Very good question. We haven't really thought about that so far. I'm glad you saw the humor in our first demo. Since we have become a "real" band, we have been more preoccupied with how we would/should sound, and with the evolution of our music, than with the humor in it. I guess we'll have to trust in our natural instinct for sabotage. We create something, and then we start tearing it apart. . . Contraweight, or something like that. But it is good that you ask this. Humor is important for us; we're not planning to become the Benny Hills of our scene, but a Phytonesque wink now and then is very much ok.

Last Sigh:  You use imagery such as stills from Russ Meyer exploitation movies, and of Marlon Brando in "The Wild One" to present yourself to the public. What is it about this imagery that appeals to you? How do these images reflect Diamond Dogs' sentiments and music?

Dominique:  The same as with the name -- a little glammy, kitsch feel. It also should reflect that we're trying not to take ourselves too seriously. We'd like to reflect some kind of an eclectic fin de siècle decadence. Carpe diem at 230 km an hour. A roller coaster ride on acid.

Last Sigh:  How far are you in recording your next demo tape? And what other plans do you have for the immediate future?

Dominique:  We've recorded three new songs so far, and we're working on two more, so we're moving on. I suppose this demo will be released after the summer. It is possible that we will also release it on CDr (in a limited edition), if the quality is ok. For the immediate future, we're working on a full live set. We're trying out all kinds of different combinations, which should allow us to play live. So, you could that say we are rehearsing right now.

Last Sigh:  What label(s) would you really like to see your music be released on?

Dominique:  It doesn't really matter to us. We'd be happy to find a label that wants to release our music. I don't believe that we'll easily find a label in Belgium, with the music we are making. Anyway, we don't have long theories on this issue. One thing maybe -- the fact that we can promote our music is far more important, than money we could earn with label x or y.

Last Sigh:  Have you approached or been approached by any labels yet?

Dominique:  We have only mailed our demo to some Belgian labels, but we did not get any reaction from them. Not even a letter saying "that our music is ok, but that they haven't got a budget for this genre, and that we should keep sending our tapes to them". Now we're thinking about how we should approach record companies.
We do have contacts with the Canadian band/label Black Dahlia through the internet, who will include our song "Hate Drives" on a compilation that should appear later this year.

Last Sigh:  What do you see as the greatest hurdle for you at this time in your career as a band?

Dominique:  I do not understand the word "hurdle".

Koen:  And I do not understand the word "career"?????

Peter:  Huh??????????????????????

Els:  Hurdle means in Dutch: "Een horde of hek, m.a.w. een moeilijkheid op de weg, iets om te overwinnen". You could say a bump in the road. As for the word "career", check your dictionary!!!!
(Els is Peter's girlfriend).

Dominique:  Ok, I understand now. The hardest thing will be to be able to develop ourselves. I mean, if we can only exist as band inside our "studio" or "rehearsal" room, then we aren't much of a band. So I hope we'll have enough possibilities to play live in the future. That combined with releasing stuff (on tape or on CD or on the internet). Both will allow us to grow, otherwise we'd stagnate.

Last Sigh:  Uhm. . .OK, then. . .What are for you the most rewarding aspect of creating music?

Koen:  For me the most rewarding aspect is that we can create a good song with 4 different people, who all have their own opinions about music.

Dominique:  Two things: First, the moment everything fits together and results in the song, which you had in your head all the time, but now finally comes out. And, secondly, when you can connect to other people through your music. It's like making a movie. You put some components together, and those elements together create an atmosphere, which the viewer/listener lives through. You can feel angry, sad, aggressive, ... just by watching or listening (to) something. You kinda control sentiments.

Last Sigh:  This is an interesting point....If you feel you can control or create sentiments in the listener, what do you then feel your responsibility towards your audience is?

Dominique:  I think it's about two options. You can listen to music as a way to create moods, or you can use music as wallpaper. If you listen to our demo in a darkened room with only a strobe flashing once in a while, with the volume real high, it will be a different experience, than if you put our tape in your player, while you're washing the dishes. It's about environment and state of mind.
The same is true with a live concert, but there, we control volume, sound, environment, etc. Then the audience has the option of stepping into it along with us, or just be bystanders/observers. If they step along, it's like we go on a trip together. In the other case, it doesn't really matter, whether it is us playing, or a barroom boogie rock'n'roll band. In that case it's about having a good time. Which is ok too of course.
With regards to responsibility, it's a bit of a frightening thought, but in the first scenario [I described], your question is surely relevant. But, I have to admit that I do not know the answer. I suppose we keep the door open, from there on it's a free choice for everyone.

Last Sigh:  Are there any messages or ideas that you wish to relay to people through your music?

Dominique:  [This is] about the same things I talked about before. For instance, the lyrics may look kinda hazy, but it is not the words themselves that count, it is the complete atmosphere of sound; the sound of the words, and the associations they lead you to that matter. For this purpose, we sometimes use those Burroughs-like cut-ups.

Last Sigh:  The cut-up effects are interesting by the way, how did you create these technically?

Dominique:  We play our basic stuff over and over, and then we make "landmarks". That can be words, sounds, voices, ... We use those as points of entry. From there on we make new associations. By the time we start recording, we have a working-schedule for lyrics and guitar parts (the structure with drumloops and keyboards are by then already filled-in). And then we actually "cut-up". We record a part, listen to it, try another version, and another, . . . Then we use the best parts and put them together. Of course, we have our limitations, since we work with a four-track recorder.

Last Sigh:  What do you think about the current surge in mp3 copying and distribution of music on the internet -- You know, people who upload CDs to the internet, for other people to download for free?

Peter:  It's a great opportunity for a band like us to show our music all over the world. We get in contact with people from Canada, Italy, Germany. . .
Most Belgian groups send their demo tapes to Belgian Labels. Everything stays inside Belgium. With the opportunity to send our music via the Internet all over the world, we can reach many more listeners.

Last Sigh:  This is true, but would you feel the same, if you had a CD out, and people were uploading it to the internet. . .

Dominique:  At this point I would be honored, if people felt that our music was worth uploading to the internet. Otherwise, If we were part of the "establishment", we probably wouldn't like it. Then again, CDs cost way too much over here. I can image that a CD takes a big [bite] out of the budget of teenagers. So it's some kind of leveling.

Last Sigh:  What would you consider to be the ultimate success for you as a band?

Dominique:  Finding a label, have the   to opportunity to grow as a band, and do some tours (since we live in Belgium, opportunities for touring are small). . . Or, sitting backstage at the Reading festival, having a drink with Ozzy Osbourne, whilst discussing his obsession for bats.