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Last Sigh: Could
you tell us a little about yourself and your background, especially in relation to your
musick?
Christus: I come from Midwestern America. Somehow I made out with the
awareness that
I now have (and continue to cultivate). From an early age I felt on the fringes of any
sort of thinkly woven social fabric. This, although it seemed to me painful and difficult
at the time, allowed me to observe people and their behavior. Even though I was at the end
of their prodding stick a lot, I feel that I had something that gave me the ability to be
sensitive to others and at the same time able to critique society and all of its
shortcomings.
Musick became very important to me
early on. It could talk to me unlike anyone else around me at the time. As years of this
went by, I developed a hunger to express myself in this arena also. A good friend (Brett
Smith, now recording exquisitely haunting musick under the name Caul)
and I began recording on his older brother's 4 track portastudio. These recordings were
very experimental and silly sometimes, but they served as impetus to explore musick
further.
I eventually started recording
stuff on my own and eventually bought my own 4 track. Then an 8 track. Then a keyboard.
Musick was always very personal to me (whether it be my own or someone else's) and I found
that when I started to make my own musick, on my own terms, that it became extremely
personal to me. So much so that I dare not tap into it too much, lest I never come back.
Last Sigh: Could you tell us something more about the special
awareness that you feel you have, and how this perhaps influences the musick that you
compose?
Christus: Well, the awareness that I spoke of basically amounts to a case
of hyper-sensitivity. This can work to one's advantage as well as to one's disadvantage. I
don't know if I could identify any direct links from it to my musick, but, as they both
come from me, I suppose that they are connected by association, as everything is. Maybe it
does have to do with my musickal process though. As I can become overwhelmed by all that I
see around me I can also get overwhelmed by the vastness of the language of musick. This
can be a problem in the sense of being able to see so many potential possibilities for
musickal direction as to let it paralyze you.
I have been having a dry spell
creatively for the past few months, and I think that this has to do with feeling
overwhelmed. I have been dwelling in my head as opposed to living in action. This, I feel,
is reaching a breaking point though. There comes a time when hesitation has no place and
there is no option but to act, lest one stay static in the realm of possibility. Also,
quickly approaching deadlines can help. Last Sigh: Your musick has a very spiritual
feel, and from what you say above you come across as a strongly spiritual person -- is
this spirituality rooted in a specific established belief system, or do you have a more
individual and unique belief or religion?
Christus: I don't believe in belief systems for myself. Systems too
easily stagnate and contradict the very reasons they were established. I prefer to operate
more fluidically. There are certain "systems" that I do feel akin to though. I
feel strongly drawn towards Buddhism and Taoism.
Last Sigh: You
call yourself Christus 777, could you explain this name?
Christus: Christus just came to me. There was a time in my life,
when I was having sort've a Christ-complex, in the sense of thinking that all those who
bring or perpetuate peaceful growth and awareness in their given time/context do tend to
be persecuted in one form or another. Anything that requires great effort or
self-responsibility, and lends itself to some sort of positive outcome, seems to be
shunned as antiquated. It's harder to love than it is to hate. Cynicism is anti-effort,
anti-growth. It's the response of a hurt child who has given up. It is pain numbed and
unexpressed. The 777 came about in a time when I was playing around with
numerology. Somehow I pieced it together as the numerical equivalent to doing nothing I
will regret, and regretting nothing I do.
Last Sigh: What
is it about musick in particular -- do you think -- that makes it able to speak to you
(and probably many other people) on such a profound level?
Christus: Well, musick, for me, has the ability to transcend language and
social conditioning. It works its way directly to the core of what it is to be alive. It
can take one's heart and mind beyond where previously thought possible. Plus it is
completely experiential. I get impatient with painting or drawing or sculpture. Musick is
much more kinetic and alive to me.
Last Sigh:
The Futility Goddess is your first full-length release, and I understand
that it was 5 years in the works. Could you talk a little about the process of making this
album, both as pertaining to the creative development of the music, and the more formal
aspect of having the finished work released?
Christus: Well, there are
several reasons that it took so long. Many of them being scheduling difficulties, but the
main being that my work process progresses very slowly. I came to Justin with the
idea for my CD long before it was completed, and then on top of that I didn't own my own
keyboard, so I was alternately renting one when I could, and borrowing a friend's.
Almost all of the pieces on the CD
started as very strong foundations for the unfolding of larger pieces, but some of them
remained small, rudimentary. I was simultaneously sort of self-conscious about this, but
at the same time alright with it. Sometimes they just sounded good exactly the way that
they were, regardless of further development. And, I am not opposed to going back to old
pieces in the future and reworking them (which I intend to do with a few pieces on Futility
Goddess), building on them more, have them played on 'real' (acoustic) instruments
with more complex arrangements.
So, anyway, I realized that I could
spend another year or two just fleshing them out a bit more, but I opted to release them
as they were, as a document of the period of my creativity that they were conceived in,
and as sort of part of my continual musickal diary. Now that it is released, not only do I
feel a great sense of relief, but also a closure of something that I don't have to attend
to anymore. A child sent off into the world to make its own friends and discover its own
contexts. I am very pleased with how every thing turned out and excited about the
opportunity to share it with others.
Last Sigh: The very first piece you released -- "Dream
Sequence 1" -- almost sounds like an excerpt from a greater work -- which the title
could also suggest. Is this the case, and if so, is there a chance that you may release an
EP or LP of "Dream Sequences"?
Christus: I see Dream Sequences appearing throughout my
musickal future. I wanted the option of composing a continuum that could last years.
Either modifying the original concept or taking it to a different plane. I see the
Sequences as being intentional mirrors. Sounds that sort of force one's mind to visualize
something taking place to the musick that was being heard.
Last Sigh: Have you been involved in any other musical projects
prior to the Ignis Fatuus? Or any other work of an artistic nature?
Christus: well, there was Brett
& I's group (aforementioned) Ped Sking. I
collaborated on musick with different people when I lived in Kansas City about 10 years
ago. I used to dabble in performance art and published my own magazine (Purge) for
a few years.
Last Sigh:
What does "Ignis Fatuus" mean? And why did you choose it as the name
to represent your musical work?
Christus: Ignis Fatuus
simply means "foolish fire". Somehow this equates to me the illusory nature of
things (particularly beauty since, it seems, that if its around for any length of time, we
tend to get used to it and stop nurturing it, and then it soon vanishes or changes). I
feel that this is what my musick might communicate. both awareness of beauty itself, and
the transformation of it. The transformatory nature of everything in this life.
Last Sigh: What personal as well as literary/artistic influences
inspired the music as well as the thematic subject matter of The Futility Goddess?
Christus: I was inspired (and I show it unashamedly) by the
compositions of Wim Mertens, Michael Nyman, Zbigniew
Priesner, Dead Can Dance, Jarboe
& various movie soundtracks in as far as how certain musick can contain pulse and
breath, and how it can, even without lyrical content, evoke imagery. I became fascinated
by marches. I love Herman Hesse. And, I became involved with someone
years ago who put me face-to-face with the issues mentioned in The Futility Goddess.
She was a big inspiration, or, shall I say, the pain and longing that came of the
situation was an inspiration. She inspired me in different ways.
Last Sigh: It is interesting that you mention Hesse, because
many of the pieces on The Futility Goddess made me think of Hesse's work, which I
too admire greatly. Are there any specific stories of his that inspired any of your
compositions?
Christus: No. No specific writings of Hesse served to inspire
any of the musick on the CD, but Steppenwolf played a big role in the sort of
awareness that was being cultivated around the time in my life that The Futility
Goddess is dealing with.
Last Sigh: The
lyrics to "Prelude/Immersion" are very beautiful and also mysterious, telling a
story that seems very central to the experience of being human, but doing so in a rather
mythical and dreamy manner. Would you care to explain a little about what this
"story" is that you tell on this specific song?
Christus: Well, basically
the story is the "pursuer" describing one of his many dream-encounters with the
Goddess that he communes with every full moon. I included it on the CD to set the mood of
these encounters, to describe what kind of experiences that he has when he meets her in
his dreams. The ease of their interaction, the playfulness they engage in, the mystery
that brings them together.
Last Sigh: The CD booklet states that "All musick and
vocals written, performed, and produced by Christus 777 except..." Could you describe
your work process in more detail? What instruments do you play? At what point in the
compositional process of your musick do the vocals enter the picture?
Christus: I have no
set work process. It just consists of me sitting down and plucking out whatever comes into
my head at the time. I hardly ever come to the keyboard with a preconceived notion of what
I want to express. It's completely subconscious. I'm still finding different layers to the
musick on the CD. I play keyboards. I have the desire to utilize other instruments, but
for the "Goddess" I knew that I wanted the work to sound symphonic and so I did
the best that I could with the resources that I had to work with (an Ensoniq 16 and a
small sound library).
For the stuff that I'm doing now
I'm bringing more instruments into the work and more people. Working with my friend Steve
on "Sanctum Of Ashes" really inspired me to explore the introduction of other
elements into my otherwise claustrophobic musickal input. It's my favorite track on the
CD, and it will give you an idea of where I'm headed.
Vocals come last. there will be
more of them (from me and others) on the next CD. On the two pieces that I did with Jarboe
for the single, she actually sent me the spoken word pieces and then I put musick to them.
Last Sigh: You mentioned earlier that musick offers the
opportunity to communicate awareness.....does the process of composing perhaps also create
further awareness in you personally?
Christus: Good question!
Yes, I do believe that composing brings an awareness to me. Not only because of the
process itself of manifesting the emotional into the aural, but also because of the care
that goes into giving something life. Realizing that these sounds that so deeply affect
me, might just as well affect another as strongly, and just what would I so much want to
hear if I were the soul that I am in a world such as this? It can be a very delicate
process.
Last Sigh:
You have released your musick on Cold Spring from the
beginning. How did you become involved with Cold Spring? What artistic
possibilities do Cold Spring offer you that other labels would not?
Christus: Well, I
came across Justin when I saw a request that he had placed in a TOPY newsletter,
asking for people to contribute to a cassette compilation consisting of all TOPY members.
I sent him some songs, but I was about a year too late! He liked what he heard, and, of
his own volition, reviewed the tape I sent him in a column that he was writing at the time
for a music magazine. We continued contact, and he told me of a CD label that he was
trying to put together. I joked about him releasing a CD of my musick, and he agreed!!
that's when the 5 years started.
Working with Cold Spring
allows me complete artistic freedom. I give him my musick, he puts it out. It doesn't
reach quite as many people as I would like,
and I don't like people having to pay import prices here in the states, but I appreciate
the personal feel that you get with working with someone one-on-one. He sincerely likes my
work and that's why he's putting it out. I love the simplicity of that.
Last Sigh: How did Jarboe become involved in Ignis
Fatuus? Will you be working on future projects together?
Christus: I contacted Jarboe,
after I heard from Justin that she liked my song best on the Cold
Spring compilation (Shrine) that we both appeared on to thank her.
I suggested that we try some stuff together. She agreed; so we did. I have since done some
musick for her upcoming solo CD, and she will be working with me on mine. There has been
talk of her and I and two other friends (the aforementioned Brett and John
Bergin of Trust/Obey fame) getting a recording
project together under the name "The Suicide Pact". Still embryonic as of yet.
Last Sigh:
Do you (and/or do you have any plans to) perform your musick live?
Christus: I've performed a few songs live about 9 years ago. I really
have a desire to perform live and I have it in mind when I work on the second CD.
Hopefully some day soon!!
Last Sigh:
Will we have to wait another five years for your next album?
Christus: No!
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