The recent
riots in Seattle, Washington, during the WTO meeting renewed publicity and public
awareness of anarchism. Do you see that happening as an historical event, working to
coalesce a strong anti-corporate movement, or more of a minor explosion to release tension
or . . .? Any opinions on the self-described "black-hooded messengers" are most
welcome.

Robert Anton Wilson
Photo courtesy of Robert Anton Wilson, 1999
RAW: It seemed to me that the Seattle protests did
represent a real historical marker-- the first time since the 1930s [70 years ago, more or
less!] that the labor unions and the radical youth worked together for a common goal. I
hope this represents a real change. More got accomplished in the '30s than in the '60s
because we had that kind of unity during the Depression and we haven't had it since then.
What protest group or alliance of concerned citizens do
you believe has the greatest potential to effectively direct political and social concerns
over the next ten years?
RAW: All things considered, I have more faith in the World Game than in any
traditional politics. Check them out at http://www.worldgame.org/wwwproject/
Given the fact that the US government continually runs operations like COINTELPRO
against activists and its own citizens, whom do you believe they will be focusing their
attention on over the next ten years?
RAW: The people who use computers. We have much more power
than we realize, and the governing elite has started to worry about that. They may have to
give up the War Against Some Drugs, not for any sane or moral or Constitutional reason,
but to use the money for a War Against Some Information. Freedom of communication
represents the greatest threat our Power Elite has ever confronted. Janet ["Burn,
Waco, Burn"] Reno comes out with a new plan to abolish the first amendment twice a
week and one of them just might pass Congress. On one hand, I don't think such schemes can
"work" -- Internet has too much "redundance of control" to allow
effective censorship. On the other hand, the War Against Some Drugs can't work either --
never has worked, never will work-- but trying to make it work has given us the biggest
prison population in world history. Trying to censor internet may fill the prisons even
more, but information will still travel faster and further than the governing class
wishes. The genie is out of the bottle. The gap between what legislators can understand
and what technologists can do is wider and deeper than any abyss you can imagine.
In an ideal world, what form of government would you choose to live under?
RAW: None. I would prefer a contractual association [as
presented by the individualist-anarchist model] or at least some form of
anarcho-syndicalism. Nobody's life or liberty are safe as long as a government exists.
In the Sixties Timothy Leary, like many activists, was sure that marijuana would be
legalized in a couple of years. It is now thirty years later and the weed is still
illegal. Why do you think this is the case?
RAW: We have about 1,500, 000 people in prison for marijuna offenses and an estimated
65,000,000 pot-heads who ain't been caught yet. Calculate how many people's yearly
earnings depend on maintaining this system -- the cops, the sheriffs, the DEA, the defense
attorneys, the prosecutors, the social workers, the prison guards, the contractors who
build new prisons, the architects etc. plus the labs who do the urine tests, the nurses
who administer, the chemists etc etc. If you add to this the amount of graft in this
system, as shown by the recent Los Angeles and other investigations, you'll probably agree
with the estimate that this black market is worth billions, not millions, per month.
That's a mighty big vested interest opposed to a free market.
You have written several dozen books. You have made numerous speaking engagements. You
have cavorted with some of the most interesting cultural revolutionaries around. What
words of wisdom or advice can you offer to aspiring cultural hipsters?
RAW: Oh, hell, you expect wisdom from me? I'll give you
wisdom. "Think for yourself, shmuck!"
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