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TMOTD: :) FFred: Hey guys, welcome, thank you for coming EXPLANT: NETSHIT Comment: hey friends EXPLANT: I'm here. EXPLANT: TMOTD: will return... *** TMOTD: (~scartissu (at) 209-239-207-230.oak.jps.net) has joined #liveonline TMOTD: mmmm .. coffee Comment: Hey guys, welcome, thank you for coming TMOTD: my connection is being funky, so if i disappear for a bit that's why Question: ok so who is TMOTD: : steve? TMOTD: -- steve [Watkins] EXPLANT: ----Phillip [Caldwell] Comment: YOUR DEMO!!!! man it kicks asss!!!!! TMOTD: Phil bought an ass-kick expander card, so yeah EXPLANT: Protool 5000 TMOTD: we have 10 more minutes of chaos... THEN order EXPLANT: I am god Question: what would you guys consider the "definitive" scar tissue? TMOTD: Beast Mix was me sampling my
CD collection of "classic" Comment: track one on TMOTD: still gives me shudders, I love it so much. :) EXPLANT: tingle tingle TMOTD: all the time EXPLANT: I do Comment: are you guys at all familiar with the "tracking" scene? TMOTD: um.. no .. what is it? Comment: its a form of music making
that people use instead of buying huge samplers and synths, you can use this little
shareware program TMOTD: i have WinAmp .. email me the
link TMOTD: computers DO NOT dehumanize music making Comment: http://www.maz-sound.com is a great sight to check out Womb: site Comment from nc: TMOTD: : yeah...im just looking at the cd now, as you have signed CD001 mwahahaa. memories..sniff sniff TMOTD: damn... nc is gonna have a
collectors Item on his hands Comment from nc: that's right Steve, i've already considered trading it for 15 albanians. TMOTD: that's right ... nc got the first Separator CD ever sold Comment from nc: indeed I did EXPLANT: Oakland, CA Question : on the demo track Beast Mix: are
the drum sounds made from a machine? and TMOTD: i just like my samplers and effects boxes Question: Steve, Phil... you guys have any plans to play NYC any time soon? EXPLANT: No plans, need plans TMOTD: someone send us some plans EXPLANT: I have the first one never sold TMOTD: you got it for free, dumb ass Womb: scar tissue: are you familiar with howard shore? TMOTD: howard shore .. no Krack: hey, get in touch with me in a
3 weeks guys, i may be working for Other EXPLANT: 16v are fun guys TMOTD: and stinky, too Question: do you guyz think machines
detract from the more human side of TMOTD: jeee ZUSS Krack: heh TMOTD: that's too ... deep ... for me Womb: i ask about howard shore,
because i really hear his influence in a lot of TMOTD: an old reel-to-reel is a "Machine" .. a piano is a "machine" krop3rom: : do you believe that world war 3 is happening now? EXPLANT: the mediatization of music has
colonized the intersubjective living space TMOTD: it's such an artificial mental
construct to separate "machine" krop3rom: is it like "mechanical ambient biological programing"?? EXPLANT: language is technology TMOTD: now THAT"S a UC Berkeley education Sin: TMOTD: : LOL Krack: you guys went to Berkeley? EXPLANT: fingers are like other digits |arioch| do you guys ever get inspiration from a non-musical source? perhaps literature or tv? TMOTD: Phil is UC berk .. I'm UC Santa barbara Womb: scar tissue: what do you think of the power noise 'movement'; some describe it as the 'savior' of this scene (whatever that is)? Sin: yeah you have degrees at a univ? TMOTD: i think it's accurate to say power noise is rejuvinating the scene EXPLANT: no salvation is possible AQ: what degrees did you pursue? krop3rom: hey TMOTD: . whats your address so that i can send you that song? TMOTD: I pursued, and caught, a degree in Physics tri: : scar tissue: what's your favorite autechre cd and why? Womb: hahaha tri TMOTD: krop3rom: : scartissue (at) bigfoot.com EXPLANT: Peace and Conflict Studies Krack: hahaha john krop3rom: ok. awesome tri: : heh tri: : no, really I want to know EXPLANT: emphasis on conflict AQ: TMOTD: : do you currently hold down a job in the field? TMOTD: Phil is the Autechre guy Womb: TMOTD: : but does it, power noise, personally appeal to you? TMOTD: womb: power noise has great stuff that i like, just like ambient or hip hop or any other style Womb: if so, which do you think are the stand outs . . EXPLANT: no favorite Amber is good zoning music Sin: who writes what in your music? how DO you guyz think of this stuff? TMOTD: AQ: : i wanted to be a
high school Physics teacher... Krack: Scar Tissue: Do you guys have jobs? AQ: Sorry to hear that :/ TMOTD: I'm Research Director for a
Staffing research firm in Silicon valley Krack: like a temp service TMOTD: it's basically corporate espionage EXPLANT: No job: student Krack: ah EXPLANT: UCBerkeley Sin: what you wanna be when you grow up EXPLANT: ? AQ: TMOTD: : how do you like Silicon Valley? EXPLANT: Alive TMOTD: Silicon valley = $$$ therefor i love it Krack: Are you guys born and raised in Cali? Sin: Silicon money EXPLANT: Steve sux TMOTD: me, yes TMOTD: hee hee EXPLANT: please try swallow TMOTD: I'm still learning to suck well Sin: sukup t3: didnt see much of that while you were here Sin: nie ;) AQ: hahaha krop3rom: so you guys prefer wheat or white bread, and also, what toppings would you add to your sandwiches? TMOTD: WHEAT! TMOTD: sourdough, actually is my fav Sin: where is Amanda's room? and why the name scar tissue? EXPLANT: Wheat with Hummus TMOTD: hummus and sprouts TMOTD: mmmm TMOTD: and mustard TMOTD: lol Womb: hummus? i can't even look at that stuff, let alone eat it EXPLANT: babaganooj? Krack: are you guys Vegans? TMOTD: no... we do dairy Krack: no meat? EXPLANT: No ia am a Presbetarian Krack: aaah Sin: where did you get the name scar tissue? AQ: did you guys talk about MP3s yet? and how you feel about them? EXPLANT: painful accident TMOTD: the first vocalist (Dofino) named the band Krack: Yeah, what are your religious affiliations... if any Sin: did/do you have family who are musicians? TMOTD: no affiliations here EXPLANT: no thank you Krack: heh TMOTD: my sister is extremely musical .. my parents aren't at all .. they have no idea where we got it Womb: do you feel that your project's name may be contributing to you being pigeonholed in a manner, in your words, your entirely sick of? Krack: Would you call yourselves Agnostic or Atheist or what? TMOTD: yes, womb .. hence "Form/Alkaline" TMOTD: I'm Agnostic, but if i had to bet I'd say there are no "gods" in the usuall sense EXPLANT: I would call myself Immanently Annoying ]bengt have you ever had tofu cheesecake? AQ: what do you guys do in your spare time to keep yourself from glazing over? EXPLANT: Yes TMOTD: I have lots of sex EXPLANT: Tofu sex Krack: Are you guys married? TMOTD: oh goodness no Sin: you guyz available? EXPLANT: no were divorced FFred anyone else logging this? EXPLANT: yes Sin: married to each other? Sin: heh TMOTD: we ARE living together though .. soo.... FFred ok cause I have to go TMOTD: draw your own conclusions EXPLANT: We are seeing other people Krack: Somethings better left unsaid Steve TMOTD: but Phil has let himself go.. so I'm looking outside our relationship for satisfaction EXPLANT: He wouldn't agree to a counselor TMOTD: LOL... damn ... coffee almost came out my nose NC: TMOTD: : are you looking for someone who plays tablas anytime soon? :) TMOTD: tablas would be VERY nice AQ: what's a darvuga? NC send a check! Krack: Phil, i bet you wanted more then half, and the kids TMOTD: deal NC: a darvuga is a moroccan hand-drum that has quite a pitch range. EXPLANT: I enjoy my independence TMOTD: hey nc: plug your compilation EXPLANT: hey: plug steve Womb: have either of you had artistic aspirations apart from strictly making music? AQ: do you guys ever read rec.music.industrial, if so, what do you think of it? Krack: Can i send you guys an MP3? TMOTD: my artistic aspirations have always been music Sin: can my eldest daughter have your offspring? TMOTD: and rec.music.industrial is entertaining... that's about it EXPLANT: I like to write too TMOTD: NC: and the OTHER compilation..... Womb: EXPLANT : suspected as much Krack: How long have you been making music? NC: TMOTD: : what other compilation? EXPLANT: I am performing testicular breathing for that purpose Krack: EXPLANT: : can i send you an mp3 of my stuff? EXPLANT: Yes do send Krack: where too? dcc or email? Womb: have your respective sex lives benefitted from becoming a 'recognized' music group? :) AQ: have you guys watched any movies of late that have left a deep impression on you? TMOTD: if i relied on underground-music-god status for sex, I'd be very unhappy Sin: what, if anything, do you guyz read? (outside of school for EXPLANT: )... TMOTD: AQ: : i saw Bufalo 66 .. very good EXPLANT: Fear and Loathing! TMOTD: i read a lot of non-fiction technology / science oriented stuff TMOTD: and harlan Ellison AQ: TMOTD: : what's Buffalo 66 about? EXPLANT: I read Habermas NC: What about philosophy? Any favorites? TMOTD: it's Christina Ricci and ...
damn, what's his name .. he wrote / directed / starred in it Sin: what did you use to get this blurry beat/sound on Pique? Womb: are either of you fans of the Dada/surrealist movements? EXPLANT: DAda is ridiculous TMOTD: Sin: : for the drums? Womb: EXPLANT: : is that a compliment or derision? :) EXPLANT: both Sin: TMOTD: : i hear cymbals. but there is this blurry/fuzzy beat going on in the background... Krack: What do you guys think of one day "industrial" being nearly un heard of and the next day, well... TVT and Nothing Sin: TMOTD: : oh! its very cool TMOTD: Krack: ... i think it's .. nice .. i really have no feelings either way .. I'd still be making my music NC: TMOTD: : soon you guys will be producing the next big boybandsstilbirth i gotta run people.... -Loser TMOTD: ooo.. cant wait Krack: How did you guys start the music making process? TMOTD: we plugged in the power cords EXPLANT: Music was a good alternative for a highschool education Sin: if you guyz get in at roskilde, will you take me with you as your sound analyst? Krack: you guys have any rituals with your music? TMOTD: usually we just start making
noises and wait for something to "click" AQ: what is your favorite aspect of performing live? EXPLANT: You may cum eith us TMOTD: performing live: man, i like
it all .. setting up, playing .. hate tear-down though NC: TMOTD: : im headed out west coast in august...i'll have to bring the tablas and we can set up a gig :) TMOTD: YES! EXPLANT: I stare the audience down TMOTD: oh yeah... Phil stands there and frightens the first row AQ: Phil never did elaborate about his voyeuristic tendencies........ tri: : TMOTD: , EXPLANT: : when are you coming to atlanta? =) TMOTD: Phil is following the "dont ask dont tell" policy EXPLANT: I was taking a piss actually tri: : what was it called? TMOTD: yes .. tour is good EXPLANT: We would destroy it TMOTD: quit job ... loose money EXPLANT: Can you get J Ventura to come? ]bengt: would you guys ever come to canada? (or have you in the past)? TMOTD: we drove through canada .. does that count? ]bengt: not really Krack: Scar Tissue: I missed your comment about "chemicals" as i was booted TMOTD: chemicals? EXPLANT: ??? Krack: ok... EXPLANT: scaoth guard? Sin: do you guyz use mind altering drugs? EXPLANT: No I don't TMOTD: -- coffee, alcohol, and the occasional clove Sin: other than caffeine? AQ: cloves? hehehe EXPLANT: but I have been known tyo lie TMOTD: shut up Krack: You guys can plead the 5th on this one, but is your music influneced by chemicals or is that another life, or not involved at all? EXPLANT: Pollution is my fav TMOTD: not involved at all, but it DOES enhance the pleasure of making the music sometimes Krack: i'm addicted to birth controll myself TMOTD: big latex monkey on your back? Krack: I have breasts like no man should EXPLANT: POTHEAD TMOTD: Railgun... see www.wenet.net/~atomick/railgun/ Sin: what do you guyz like to do when you arent making music, working for money, or studying? any sports or hiking or? TMOTD: ewwww.. sports AQ: TMOTD: : what's railgun like? EXPLANT: we just go "away" Krack: Scar Tissue: I gotta plug myself for you... http://members.xoom.com/bz010/lofi/lofi.html .... while people are being pluged TMOTD: Railgun is the project of nathan, the guy who did a remix for Rebuild, and the cover art layout for our first CDs TMOTD: it's like Download meets good FLA, but no vocals EXPLANT: I like to make up shitty band names TMOTD: Railgun has a new demo CD that he'll mail you .. go to his site... its really the best hard electro I've heard in a long time TMOTD: experimental, but rockin' EXPLANT: e.g. Endangered Kayak Krack: Do you guys listen to anything that isn't electronic or avant or experimental ect... some jazz, blues, classic rock, deathmetal, whatever? EXPLANT: e.g. Strategic Hamlet t3: Greasy Bible .. yet another neat mental picture EXPLANT: e.g. Instrumental Waffle TMOTD: i like small-combo Jazz, like
Kieth Jharret stuff .. also hip-hop, noise-pop... Somn: Scar Tissue: Do you believe its the equipment that makes the band or the musical skills behind it? EXPLANT: coffee TMOTD: well.. yes EXPLANT: Illogical Paradox TMOTD: but the equipment very much is in control of the structures and sounds EXPLANT: sytem error TMOTD: Looser con Carne EXPLANT: Me? TMOTD: no, lamer Sin: steve: when you have friends who are doing cds, give them my snail mail addy and have them pass one over to me. EXPLANT: Why don't you come down hear and suck my disck? Krack: what do you guys think of the notion of being a "rockstar" EXPLANT: We hate rock TMOTD: suck your disc? EXPLANT: my disk Krack: not rock, i just mean the idolistic musician/artist sorta thing tri: : what do you guys think of velvet acid christ? EXPLANT: I enjoy homage TMOTD: i like the idea of "rock stars" as a necessary cultural entity Sin: do you think that the element of a ROCK STAR element in electro/industrial is why electro/industrial isnt as popular as say, metal or NIN type of stuff? TMOTD: nah Sin: the element of a MISSin: G rock star? TMOTD: there ya go EXPLANT: M. Manson replaced A. Cooper, a weird archetype or something TMOTD: i don't think its the # of people worshiping you that makes you a "star" EXPLANT: a star is really just a ball of gas - I resent it TMOTD: you're next door neighbor may be a "star" to you because he's an awesome guitarist Sin: yah but why is it that electro/industrial hasnt really "caught on" with mainstream? (MM and NIN aside) TMOTD: cause it's NOT mainstream Sin: but NIN and MM wasnt mainstream either in early stages EXPLANT: People complain when you don't brainwash them correctly TMOTD: yes, they are Krack: What would you guys say to Brittany Spears if she asked for a remix? Sin: they werent in their early stages TMOTD: NIN has always had "verse/chorus/verse/bridge/chorus Mr44: mtv likes to find an established scene and rape it t3: NIN was mainstream from day one Sin: they were? t3: Pretty Hate Machine sounds like Erasure EXPLANT: ?? TMOTD: t3: .. i agree EXPLANT: whiny at least Sin: ah..ok...but trent talks about expoSin: g the dark sides of human nature to theaudience, is that what makes it sell? TMOTD: it's still GOOD... EXPLANT: So Krack: speaking of whiney, are you guys fans of "goth"? AQ: haha Krack: Sin: Goff Krack: heh TMOTD: we're not fans at all Sin: how about GWAR! EXPLANT: We like to create confusion in the goth scene by breaking dress code Krack: you gotta love gwar TMOTD: hee hee ... true, Phil Sin: ex: heheheh its those CUT OFF SHORTS OF YOURS Krack: i go to goth clubs in clown suits and try to cheer them up TMOTD: now THAT'S alternative EXPLANT: Who are those dorks? oh its scar tissue Somn: Scar Tissue: How do you guys feel about the musical creations of Claus Larsen? TMOTD: yeah... "you cant come in
here dressed like that!" ... "we're the BAND!" AQ: TMOTD: : lol, has that seriously happened to you? TMOTD: in various forms, yes Sin: TMOTD: : EX: have you heard Beefcake? Krack: Scar Tissue: What is the earliest music you remeber listening to? TMOTD: Beefcake .. no EXPLANT: what is sad? Krack: aaaah EXPLANT: our earliest? TMOTD: but my mom says I used to put on John Philip Sooza marches and march around in my diaper Krack: yeah Phil Krack: how old are you guys? TMOTD: 9 EXPLANT: Golden Years by Bowie is my first
fav. when I was 4 TMOTD: my first concert was Barry manilow ... then Air Supply .. then Chicago Sin: beefcake: http://klangstabil.com/hymen TMOTD: i loved John denver too EXPLANT: my first concert was the Mission UK - I was too disturbed by people to go to concerts until I was 16 Krack: my first cnocert was Testament and Green Jelly TMOTD: and the Beatles, of course Sin: german drum bass experimental TMOTD: Phil and "issues" EXPLANT: Has AQ: have you guys ever toured in Europe? EXPLANT: we bomb Europe TMOTD: really cool experimental acid
jazz EXPLANT: Yes AQ: TMOTD: : cool, to tour or just as tourists? EXPLANT: Be a Hoe Krack: Scar Tissue: would you guys ever dress up like barbarians and squirt blood and jizz all over the crowd? TMOTD: that'll be cool Sin: ce we
dont bathe, we'll fit right in tri: : Scar Tissue: would you tour with Ozzfest? TMOTD: we'll tour with anyone who has
cool lighint Krack: TMOTD: The Love Parade has some sweet lighting I'm sure TMOTD: Scar Tissue and Form/Alkaline will likely have tracks on a forthcoming dbl-vinyl comp EXPLANT: brought to you by tek-interrupt TMOTD: it's called THE DOLL FACTORY, AQ: what other artists will be featured on there? TMOTD: one reacord is called WER IST DER KINDERMORDER? EXPLANT: Wjat's a good name? TMOTD: the other is MURDER MACHINES Womb: aube! coil! not breathing! AQ: sounds interesting Womb: what great company :) t3: wer ist der kindermorder is an
awesome title Sin: whats it mean? TMOTD: yeah Sin: german right? TMOTD: (1) WER IST DER KINDERMORDER?
-- Which, in German, means Sin: what label? TMOTD: they picked a ST track for one
record, and a Form/Alkaline track for the other EXPLANT: Which time? TMOTD: ha ha Sin: both great tracks yes TMOTD: our contract was done anyway EXPLANT: Don worked really hard, its too
bad Mr44: http://doll.hypermart.com/ TMOTD: the url will be http://doll.hypermart.com/ Sin: ok TMOTD: but it's not up yet Sin: anyone have their email? TMOTD: yes ... Sin: ok Womb: that cd sounds unbelievable TMOTD: it's only vinyl EXPLANT: Who lives in SF or Oakland area? TMOTD: i do! Sin: i wanna be scar tissues official
Fan Hoe AQ: EXPLANT: : I know of somebody who lives in SF Sin: Did you guys see dave wright when he was there last week or so? TMOTD: nope EXPLANT: Who? AQ: lol AQ: EXPLANT: : this girl named Jennifer EXPLANT: I know her AQ: EXPLANT: : cool, give her a big hug for me EXPLANT: Ok AQ: she goes to calstate Sin: do you guyz ever get together with other band members and jam? TMOTD: we never "jam" anyway TMOTD: we attempted a jam session with Nial of 3D House of beef TMOTD: i think remixing other
people's stuff is the closest we get to EXPLANT: Yeah Sin: TMOTD: : if i come to oakland
area in the future, can i play your TMOTD: oh sure EXPLANT: we'll give you the ST decoder ring Sin: awww! thee ring TMOTD: we have a decoder ring?
damn... EXPLANT: You must first submit Sin: oh TMOTD: send secret messages Sin: *gulp* EXPLANT: aaaahhh Sin: so lets say, i have this contest
in the future on last sigh, will you guyz be willing Womb: do you guys watch mystery science theater 3000 by chance? TMOTD: I'll sign a wiener EXPLANT: but will you engrave a sausage? TMOTD: hey Phil .. Fletcher wants to go get food at that Ghetto Cajun food place ... you wanna go? EXPLANT: I got chips &salsa (not sharing) TMOTD: fucker Sin: okie... dont sign the disc...it ruins them so i hear..... tri: : have you guys ever met mark spybey? [dead voices on air/dvoa] EXPLANT: no TMOTD: never met him, no EXPLANT: Half of nothing is nothing Sin: thanks for coming to liveonline/irc steve, phil! its been fun.... TMOTD: you are most welcome, kind hostess Sin: its the property of ZERO EFFECT Sin: heh TMOTD: THAT was a good movie Sin: yah! TMOTD: the zero effect Sin: zero effect was a movie? Sin: i dont watch movies much obviously TMOTD: that's a good one Sin: i'll rent it TMOTD: yes Sin: ok t3: go see Dobermann Sin: and let me know if you need help for roskilde ok? t3: get some culture :) TMOTD: we need all the help we can get Sin: ie. wish list entries. TMOTD: nope t3: Sin: ill find the info on the Roskilde committee and mail to the guys Sin: you gonna for 2000? t3: the rest is up to themselves TMOTD: yes t3: ive never dealt with the Roskilde folx before Sin: when you send it in, email me ok? TMOTD: ok Sin: t3: : xxx has a friend on committee, two i think.... TMOTD: we need friends on committee Sin: you DO! t3: that'll help too TMOTD: yup Sin: they'll announce it soon on the web page t3: Sin, i can be pretty fuqn stupid if asked to :) Sin: well, it's been FUN you two... EXPLANT: yep TMOTD: yes ... it has Sin: t3: : i'll keep that in mind for future reference ! TMOTD: better than last time, even t3: :) Sin: yep! TMOTD: have fun editing the
transcript EXPLANT: see you (hoe):) Sin: you guyz take care of yourselves, thanks SHIT LOADS for the demo!!!!! t3: haha thats gonna be hell Sin: TMOTD: : REAL FUNNY t3: take care you two oddballs, nice meeting you :) TMOTD: i guess I'm off to get Cajun food Sin: HOE EXPLANT: Bye Sin: bye bye!!! TMOTD: later all! Sin: huggz TMOTD: thanks! *** TMOTD: has left #liveonline *** EXPLANT: has left
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