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This was an exclusive interview held on June 29th, 1999 with Bryan Erickson [Velvet Acid Christ] on Internet Relay Chat [IRC], to kick off the recent release of "Fun With Knives."  Bryan  has a great deal to comment on about the music of Bill Leeb, thoughts about the new VAC album, "Fun With Knives", his gear list, his past, sampling, money, touring, his future as VAC, and the music scene in general.
We hope you enjoy reading this interview as much as we had doing it.
The type was edited in as original time mode as possible to retain the
feel of the Internet Relay Chat system as a medium for real time discourse.

VAC: its what I do :)

Last Sigh: I was wondering about it, about the samples you used.

VAC: what about it?

Last Sigh: I have no idea where they are from...movies that is.

VAC: in what songs?

Last Sigh: well, that one where the man is telling the story
about his stabbing a girl?

VAC: stabbing his mother

Last Sigh: AH ' ok

VAC: it was on an HBO special, about violent kids who murder.
Its their rehab.

Last Sigh: ok, what else did you use?

VAC: fear and laothing in las vegas "story about a rolling
stone editor in the s who goes to cover a race, and gets on so
many drugs it gets wild".

Last Sigh: I saw on the VH-1 hits list in germany fwknives is #4
on the charts, did you know that? it was last week. how do you feel about that?

VAC: really?
VAC: whoa
VAC: I knew on the DAC we were up there
VAC: but on Vh-1
VAC: cool
VAC: wow

Last Sigh: yeS!
Last Sigh: so how do you feel about that?

VAC: I think we are really hot over there right now [Germany]

Last Sigh: you are!

VAC: I worked hard for it
VAC: and so did the new label [Dependent]
VAC: great marketing

Last Sigh: yep!
Last Sigh: ok another question:

Last Sigh: what prompted you to use the theme of playing
with knives, murder, violence, etc in this release?

VAC: Hmmm. I wanted to do a splatter album.
VAC: but it turned out so oddly
VAC: like I got into all this new music as I started working
on the release, then it took all these directions, I jsut lyrically
put the theme into all the varied songs. Many different influences
on that record.,

Last Sigh: what is a splatter album?

VAC: Horror

Last Sigh: which influences?
Last Sigh: film? music? art?

VAC: music
VAC: I wanted to make it ultra agressive, but I spent so
much time on the musical production, melodies, that I lost
sight of most of the aggro feel

Last Sigh: what music were you listening to?

VAC: Again it was kind of a failed project as calling of the dead was

Last Sigh: I see
Last Sigh: you dont consider FWK [Fun With Knives] agressive?

VAC: FWK [Fun With Knives]: no not aggro
VAC: its too musical and dance oriented
VAC: there was supposed to be a comic that tied all the songs
together, like a concept record, but the original artists were late
so it got scrapped, as it did last time for calling of the dead. I
think I will stop trying to make concept CDs.

Last Sigh: but isnt FWK [Fun With Knives] a concept cd?

VAC: a story CD. kind of like Rush's hemispheres
VAC: or any of the older Rush CDs

Last Sigh: by the way, did you know the title: Fun With Knives
(FWK [Fun With Knives] = fuck phonetically! heheheh)
Last Sigh: I just mean that FWK [Fun With Knives] sounds like
fuck ! heh

VAC: what do you mean? I had the title of the release long
before I even had done the first song, I named the CD right
after I finished COTD
VAC: it sounds like fuck?

Last Sigh: dont take that the wrong way. literally!
Last Sigh: FWK [Fun With Knives] <---those three letters
Last Sigh: not the music

VAC: hahahah

Last Sigh: *sounds* like fuck!

VAC: oh

Last Sigh: hahahaha

Last Sigh: lol [laughs outloud]

VAC: ehhehe
VAC: I guess this newest VAC release is more acessable
than the last works
VAC: production is so much better

Last Sigh: so you feel that dependent is doing a good job
with VAC in europe?

VAC: They are doing a great job in Germany, in europe?
I have not really had success in Europe, just in Germany
VAC: I hope that my status in the UK, sweden and france improves.
VAC: but at the moment there is not the proper promotion in
those areas.
VAC: I am not interested in doing anything more mainstream
sounding in the future
VAC: FWK [Fun With Knives] is a very commercial product in my eyes.

Last Sigh: so who did help you on FWK [Fun With Knives]?

VAC: who helped, lisa and josh were on tracks, luxt were on track
but it was just the vocals, and chris workman who has quit the
band did some programming on a song.
VAC: laughs
VAC: I produced, did most vox, and wrote say % of the music
VAC: hehehe
VAC: and as it stands, I am not sure who I will work with on the
future VA material

Last Sigh: what did Lisa do on the release?
Last Sigh: and how did you get in contact with luxt to do lyrics/vocals?

VAC: Lisa did a lot of synth work on caught
VAC: Stefan contacted the luxt folk for me
VAC: I tend to see [the track] "slut" as more of a trip hop inspired track

Xys:  more like a sneaker pimp-ish kind of track?

VAC: portishead, tricky, massive attack influenced rather than a Leeb thing

Last Sigh: trip hop inspired?

VAC: yeah

VAC: trip hop

Xys:  so on this new album, you've evolved your sound to a more
current electronica sound while still maintaining that industrial "flavor" to it. How does this kind of general direction foresee for you in the future? Will you continue to persue this avenue of sound?

VAC: I think I will approach every record the same way I have musically,
VAC: where I let what I listen to, influence me, and then I put my flavor on it.

Last Sigh: why luxt? stefan knows their music

VAC: Stefan saw luxt at a festival, and was impressed with Anna's vocals [Anna is in Luxt]
VAC: then I got some of their CDs and really liked what I heard, and I think she did a great job on the track.

Last Sigh: she did do a great job yes! anna rocks!
Last Sigh: what were you listening to with "slut"

VAC: what was I listening to while doing slut? Radiohead's Ok
computer, Portis head's dummy, and massive attack's mezzanine.

VAC: I'm, very much into music, but not just industrial.

Last Sigh: so can we get a gear list bryan?

VAC: For the most part, people who do industrial music that
listen to nothing but industrial music usually end up sounding
very much like FLA, or leaetherstrip
VAC: for FWK [Fun With Knives]? gear list?
VAC: oh shit

Last Sigh: yeah

VAC: tons of crap

Last Sigh: like?

VAC: I bought and sold many items during this period
VAC: ok
VAC: lets see
VAC: korg trinity plus, nord lead, waldorf microwave 2  and pulse +, emu e6400, ensoniq asrx, access Virus, roland jp-8000 and xp-50, Novation supernova.

Last Sigh: what do you use to create the beats? Do you think people are reacting well to FWK?

VAC: I use tons of 808, 909, fx, splice loops, use recycle
VAC: are people reacting good with FWK [Fun With Knives]?
it seems I have converted many who originally hated the older
works with the new release and still managed to keep the older
fans happy as well, this is odd.

Last Sigh: YES! they are!
Last Sigh: yeah let me ask you this:
Last Sigh: how do you see old vac is different from FWK [Fun With Knives]?

VAC: Old vac was mostly about being young and angry. It was a vent for my agressions, and I was limited to older gear, and a lot of my ideas did not fully manifest due to gear limitations.
VAC: I was liberated on the new release, because I was able to
sonically complete the vision I had with the music.

Last Sigh: so you feel pretty satisfied with this release?

VAC: I am satisfied, I wish I had another few months to finish it though.
VAC: I would have changed a few things and improved a couple
of things, but I had already pushed the deadlines to the max
VAC: on the next release I will blow people away even further,
because I have learned so much more since.

Last Sigh: who is talking on track two / in the beginning?
Last Sigh: the dark inside me
Last Sigh: ?
Last Sigh: or in the middle I guess
Last Sigh: sorry
Last Sigh: or is it a sample? if you can remember
Last Sigh: its not important really...just wondered who it is

VAC: this song is very funny

Last Sigh: why?
Last Sigh: its very mello
Last Sigh: dancey

VAC: because I did a remix for FLA [Front Line Assembly], I remixed sado masochist. Bill Leeb hated it, and I thought that remix would never get released, but, it did on the septic comp from dependent
VAC: but dark inside of me is the parts of the remix I did for Bill
minus his shit with my music instead of his.
VAC: I made the dark inside, because I didnt want to waste all the work I did for his mix that he hated and said would never be released.

Last Sigh: that is why it sort of sounds like a Leeb thing?

VAC: so I made my own song out of it
VAC: I think it sounds better than the newer Leeb thing

Last Sigh: "I believe, god fucked me over", where is that from?

VAC: let me think
VAC: I think its from a movie called disturbed

Last Sigh: who is singing on track : "there is no god"?

VAC: me

Last Sigh: OH!
Last Sigh: treated with?

VAC: I do all the vox except  [tracks] "caught" and "slut"

VAC: I just sing different

Last Sigh: josh is on caught?

VAC: I try to always sound different
VAC: josh sings on caught

Last Sigh: "OH god, did you eat all this acid?"

Last Sigh: where is that from?

VAC: fear and loathing in las vegas

Last Sigh: So did you pull some of your past out to make this music in terms of experiences you had?
Last Sigh: for example: track six, MAN! you singing on that too?
Last Sigh: where can we read the lyrics?

VAC: track 6 is also me
VAC: and lyrics :)
VAC: maybe I will sell a book someday :)
VAC: I remember when Puppy never printed their lyrics, I want to see people try and figure them out :)

Last Sigh: any live drumming on this cd?

VAC: No

Last Sigh: I find it incredible that this music can be created with
computers and synths and magic little boxes. how do you feel
about all of this technology in terms of being, say, dehumanizing ?

VAC: I love it, I am very anti social, and I hate working with bands, and other musicians who have a different vision or are lazy and dont take it serious, all the machines allow me to be creative without all the BS of having a band.

Last Sigh: what do you do you see this music as a reflection of?
its very specific to a group of people in terms of age and time
(being the past 20 years or so...)...

VAC: My music?

Last Sigh: yours and the electronic scene/music in general,
especially industrial.

VAC: Hmm, I dont know, I feel its limitless, beyond age, and scenes.
VAC: its cool, the restriction is imagination.
VAC: If you learn how to use gear, you can create any style of music, or even invent your own.

Last Sigh: but you know, there is a specific age group who listen to this?

VAC: I know lots of different people who listen to VAC, and Skinny Puppy, and the electronica dance stuff

Last Sigh: middle class, yep

VAC: I think its who gets exposed.
VAC: electronic music is not promoted properly in the usa
VAC: I think this is the big problem

Last Sigh: TRUE!
Last Sigh: lack of festivals/venues/advertising

VAC: true

Last Sigh: bad booking

VAC: no one taking risks
VAC: the scene in germany did the same thing years ago, and its still strong as ever

Last Sigh: you doing any thing with video games or movie sound tracks?

VAC: I wish

Last Sigh: who programmed slut ?
Last Sigh: wrote it?
Last Sigh: music?

VAC: Chris and I wrote slut, I did 70%
VAC: I wrote it for females
VAC: ehhehe

Last Sigh: I am really pretty impressed with this cd. and I have a
bit more respect for you in terms of your music ability to create it....

VAC: ahahah
VAC: good
VAC: its a better introduction to my work, the older stuff is not as good.

Last Sigh: so how long have you been into making this stuff?
Last Sigh: and what got you into it to begin with?

VAC: i've been doing music in bands since 1987
VAC: I have been doing vac since 1990
VAC: I started young
VAC: track 10  is actually a song that did not make it in time for
calling of the dead

Last Sigh: how old are you?

VAC: 26
VAC: almost 27

Xys: Now that we're on the subject of your past, what were
your first projects before VAC?

VAC: first project was called pop, it was like this u2, duran duran,
erasure inspired thing I did with my cousins when I was very young
VAC: second project was called cyber christ: but it was mostly
punk cover songs, and guitar drive
VAC: then I kicked everyone out of cyberchrist but the keyboardist grigory billham, and we started VAC
VAC: grig gets busted by police for stealing money, and all his
gear gets taken, VAC is in limbo
VAC: then I did toxic coma

Last Sigh: what year was that? the bust?

VAC: 1992
VAC: 1991 was grig, chris and I
VAC: then grig left
VAC: I started working on this project called vortext in with gary slaughter
VAC: but we soon got rid of vortex and did vac again

Xys: What albums did the original VAC lineup produce?

VAC: 1994 Fate is recorded in my base ment, and in the span of a year, cds are made, fate pestilence and neuralblastoma, all these recordings would go onto create church of acid, and neuralblastoma that you know ov

Last Sigh: all this time you are in denver?

VAC: in colorado
VAC: yes
VAC: the band disbands, and I persue it, gary and chris find better things in life to do, other projects. I still do vac with little gear
VAC: I give fate, pestilence, neural to bill Leeb at a show in denver,
thorsten, formly of offbeat listens to it, loves it, (Leeb hated it),
we get signed.
VAC: I contact gary and chris, tell them the news
VAC: both want to do it
VAC: gary and chris fight, chris leaves.
VAC: calling of the dead starts
VAC: gary and bryan fight, gary leaves.
VAC: I call chris back, fun with knives starts
VAC: chris and bryan fight
VAC: chris leaves
VAC: I call josh and lisa into the band
VAC: josh and lisa get a divorce
VAC: bryan is alone again
VAC: I mean the history I much deeper than the vague shit
I am throwing at you :)

Xys: now on FWK [Fun With Knives], *xxxxx* is a hidden track,
but rumor has it that it is also on the Euro-only release of Church of Acid.  On the remix wars, I saw that funker vogt remixed a track called*xxxxx*.  I have never heard of the original song before on any of your albums.  What is the story behind this song?

VAC: we put it as a ghost track, and the version on FWK [Fun With Knives] is the the live version I used to tour last year, its exclusive.
VAC: only got released on the box and on the usa release as a hidden track
VAC: I put it on there, because it never saw the light of day in america and it was the song that broke us in germany
VAC: so I think VAC did not go over as well in the USA because *xxxxx* and disflux were not on the debut in america
VAC: songs that made us in the club scene over seas.
VAC: and it is not till FWK [Fun With Knives] that VAC has finally built up speed
VAC: pendragon insisted that I switch the tracks
VAC: he thought I would get sued
VAC: for sampling star trek
VAC: I did that song without ever thinking it would be released,
it was kind of a joke actually
VAC: but the song kicks ass
VAC: and that song was written in
VAC: so long ago
VAC: I hope this song gets played in the clubs in america like it did in germany
VAC: it was our cult hit
VAC: its the mix I did
VAC: chris and I wrote the original song
VAC: but I remixed it
VAC: time and time again
VAC: I was so mad the USA did not get the same church of acid that europe did, because the european release is so much better, those tracks made such a huge difference.
VAC: I think VAC would have been taken a little more seriously in the USA if it had been the same.
VAC:  So what do you think of the new VAC Xys?

Xys: I find the new VAC to be much different than the previous albums.  On this album, it seems that most of your influences are pushed to the max in development

VAC: is that good or bad?

Last Sigh: is this release better than past?
Last Sigh: if yes, how so?

VAC: from the production stand point I think so.

Last Sigh: tighter?
Last Sigh: better production?
Last Sigh: better tracks?

VAC: I think it is more accessable.
VAC: catchy
VAC: much more so than the older stuff

Last Sigh: less harsh?

VAC: more dance oriented.

Xys: The new VAC is a major development above previous VAC
albums. Whereas the previous albums were deemed industrial,
this album would be along the boundaries of a new style of industrial. Yes it is a great album

VAC: Xys:  why thank you :)

Last Sigh: why do you think Germany likes it so well?

VAC: because it allows them to dance, and still experience
funny weird samples, and a more melodic vocal style.

Xys: I wouldn't label it as ebm
Xys: it falls more toward the trance genre

VAC: everyone says different things about the new vac, that is so great
VAC: it confuses people as how to classify it

Xys: trance music is super-fast dance music without stupid cheesy vocals

Last Sigh: bryan: how would you define FWK [Fun With Knives]?
Last Sigh: music wise?

VAC: hmm
VAC: A dance record with many different styles mixed together

Last Sigh: some of the beats are like early lords of acid

VAC: and this odd theme
VAC: about murder with knives,

Last Sigh: yeah why that theme?

VAC: guns are too impersonal
VAC: when you kill with a knife, its close.
VAC: like you stare death in the face
VAC: because I see the disco scene (in all scenes) as a death
scene. Casual sex, drugs.

Xys: a question off the books: what movie did you get the samples for, "Beirut, bombings in the park, pick a tragedy..." on Calling ov the dead

VAC: gene hackman
VAC: desperate mesures

Last Sigh: who did thee artwerk on FWK [Fun With Knives]?
Last Sigh: its quite nice

Xys: some dude in finland probably

Last Sigh: prolly kermie!

VAC: kermie did it

Last Sigh: kermie [Antti Hyrkkänen] does some great stuff...

VAC: I use a lot of samples, because I am not that good of a
story teller say like (ed kaspell), I do vox, and most the music,
and I run out of ideas, so I put samples in to fill in the void, ya know, because I think there needs to be more dialogue
VAC: and I just cannot write that

Xys: what are your plans for a north american tour? and if it goes
through, who would you prefer have on tour with?

VAC: I dont know about tours yet
VAC: I will post this when I figure it out
VAC: as it stands I dont have a band
VAC: I need to find new poeple to tour with as my band
VAC: I dont want to do a dat rope de dope show

Xys: you could always hire musicians like fla does

VAC: its like wanted: vegetarian weirdo who looks fucked up, and likes to play industrial music :)
VAC: yeah right
VAC: and is talented

Xys: what it all comes down to is the power of the dollar.

VAC: true

Last Sigh: Does FWK [Fun With Knives] have the same cover in germany?

VAC: yes

[And VAC On Bill Leeb, money and the music chartss....]

Xys: so do a side project

Last Sigh: yes do a side

VAC: no
VAC: i will not be like leeb and spread myself thin
VAC: i will stick with VAC and VAC alone
VAC: leeb does music for money
VAC: [To Xys]  all his [Leebs] new music is just formulated BS to make money

Xys: so does everyone else

VAC: i do music for art and entertainment
VAC: leeb and the side project mentality is about making money

Last Sigh: hey one side isnt going to spread you thin, it might actually create more for you in terms of your art being more diverse

VAC: i just want exposure, not wads of cash

Xys: I actually listen to vac sometimes at work
Xys: and it keeps me awake

Last Sigh: Leeb is prolly jealous of you bryan

VAC: I know he is
VAC: because I am what he used to be when he was younger

VAC: yea
VAC: he actually makes fun of me in a couple of interviews
VAC: but I prolly made people in colorado FLA fans when I
was a dj years ago
VAC: he was asked about the mix I did for him

Xys: what did he say about VAC?

VAC: he said he should sue stefan for releasing it
VAC: he called us velveeta ass cheese or something
VAC: its funny
VAC: he says we are just a fla rip off and shit
VAC: I do music cause I love music,
VAC: I love doing music, listening to music
VAC: I just wish there was better labels, and more good bands
who really push the limits
VAC: but now the labels sign anything and give little money to
projects and under market them and just sell 2k of each and stay afloat
VAC: see if I had the money Puppy had, and the producers, I could be as good in my own way
VAC: but I get no help
VAC: I do it all myself
VAC: money buys you producers like flood, dave olgilvie, and trent reznor
VAC: I dont want money to be rich, but for production

Xys: have you ever gone to any of these producers and asked them to help you out?

VAC: yes
VAC: they are expensive

Xys: oh I see
Xys: so they expect something in return from you then

VAC: most cost 50k per record
VAC: you pay them
VAC: sound production is everything in this music
VAC: and VAC could be so much better
VAC: but I dont know how to do somethings with mixing and mastering
VAC: and sound ideas
VAC: etc.
VAC: every great band has had great producers
VAC: I think I am very very good, I produced FWK
[Fun With Knives] in my basement.
VAC: most cannot do that in a studio with 4 times the budget

Xys: and it is a very well done album

Last Sigh: I LOVE IT

VAC: so in that respect I like myself, but when I compare myself
to Puppy and the other great producers I suck
VAC: it could be like too dark park, or tactical neural implant,
or that total age
VAC: think of landmark CDs
VAC: land of rape and honey

Xys: the sound quality for this cd was above average
Xys: you should pick up a copy of cmj magazine

VAC: hmm
VAC: why?

Xys: and see how you are faring on the charts

VAC: am I in the charts?

Xys: CMJ is College Music Journal...we chart the top albums
in the country

VAC: I have no idea

Xys: yes you are
Xys: I have been charting FWK [Fun With Knives] for weeks now

Xys: you're in the top for our [radio] station

VAC: my usa label tells me no news about these things, I get no press pack
VAC: I have no idea

Last Sigh: xys, I have that VH-1 chart from Germany where VAC
FWK [Fun With Knives] is #/ 4 in the genres.

VAC: ahh

Xys: hah

Xys: VAC ranks top with moby, orbital, fla, and thievery corporation

VAC: that video edit of one from metallica
VAC: I think that is great,
VAC: it has more samples than VAC
VAC: I think that is what actually influenced me when I was
young to go sample crazy
VAC: I made FWK [Fun With Knives] radio friendly
VAC: not nearly as much swearing
VAC: the old stuff was anti comercial

Xys: www.cmj.com [college music]
Xys: but I think you need to subscribe

VAC: no way can you play old vac on the radio
VAC: all the old good vac songs have fuck and shit in it times
VAC: hahaha

VAC: just like jesus christ, just like all their lies, just like you
and me, just like insanity,
VAC: blood, guts, fun with knives

::: sin-tek changes topic to 'FUN WITH KNIVES IF *** FWKing ***
great! Velvet Acid Christ has RISEN!

VAC: ehhehee
VAC: catchy cheese

Xys: http://www.cmj.com/Reviews
Xys: if you want to see a CMJ review

VAC: embryonic, symbionic flash in your eyes, cutting through flesh with a rusty knife, neurotic psychotic waves in your mind, sheering open wounds with a rusty bloody knife

VAC: ehhehee

Xys: [Taken from CMJ review:] "While "greatest hits" collections don't usually garner a full review in this column, VELVET ACID CHRIST'S Church Of Acid is an exception to the rule."

Xys: "This domestic release is the band's U.S. coming out party - its earlier recordings never got released anywhere and until now, this one was only available through import on Germany's Offbeat Records"

Xys: "Born in 1990, V.A.C. is the moniker of Bryan Erickson (a k a Disease Factory) and his revolving door of contributing guests"

Xys: "While residing in the Colorado Rockies would have proven a geographical disadvantage for many musicians of this genre, Erickson managed to catch the attention of Front Line Assembly's Bill Leeb, and the rest, as they say, was all downhill skiing."

Xys: "Featuring material from V.A.C.'s three unreleased albums - Fate, Pestilence and Neuralblastoma - Church Of Acid is sure to build quite a congregation on its own. Strong tracks include "Hell One," "Let's Kill," "Dead Flesh" and "Hullucinagene."

VAC: ahahaha
VAC: hmm
VAC: oh
VAC: man
VAC: I [don't know]....

Xys: "I've always liked, "Let's Kill all These motherfuckers" but I was too lazy to edit it on the air for play."

VAC: heheh

Xys: eek

Last Sigh: ;)

Xys: "Styles: Industrial, Alternative Pop/Rock, Alternative Metal"

VAC: heheheh

Xys: thats what [pre-FWK] VAC is classified under [at CMJ]

VAC: cool

VAC: I did some metal stuff in my day
VAC: hheheh
VAC: neuralblastoma has some guitar shit on it

Xys: "Velvet Acid Christ was discovered by Front Line's Bill Leeb."

Xys: is that true?

VAC: sort of
VAC: that is what Pendragon said
VAC: like I said, I gave Bill Leeb the cds at his show, he gave them to off beat
VAC: I got signed
VAC: Bill hated the music
VAC: but off beat liked it enough to sign me
VAC: I never wanted VAC to start out as a trendy thing, I didnt want the radio
VAC: we started underground

Xys: hell ani difranco doesnt do it for the bucks either and look where she's at.

VAC: no, I think VAC has had success since day one
VAC: even in america
VAC: it was underground though
VAC: and this is how Puppy was in the begining as well

Last Sigh: true, [and the Beatles as well...]

Xys: so does this mean you have to make a shitload of music
Xys: and then die?

VAC: i'm actually happy to see this response

Last Sigh: are you happy the way "slut" turned out?

VAC: yes I am happy with it.
VAC: but on the box set, fun with razors there is a non vocal version on the 3 inch
VAC: because I sometimes like the songs more without vox
VAC: but she did a great job [referring to anny of luxt]
VAC: on the inch she also sings on the dark inside me
VAC: its odd to hear her sing to a non-luxt track though

And VAC on Touring....

VAC: Xys:  I will tour too
VAC: by the time my stint is over, I will have more tours under my belt than Bill [Leeb].

Last Sigh: if you need a tour manager call me ;

Xys: if you get crocodile shop in it, i'll be there
Xys: that's be neat though
Xys: VAC, crocodile shop, and funker vogt

VAC: NO
VAC: VAC, prana, astral projection, Numb

Xys: but they're techno

VAC: that would rule

Last Sigh: who is the female voice on the ghost track, sample of movie?

VAC: its from star trek

Xys: ever contact Don Gordon [Numb] or the people from astral projection?

VAC: nah
VAC: but I would love to tour with some goa guys and stuff

Xys: well have your manager get ahold of juno reactor

VAC: I would love to bring the industrial people to the goa scene, and have the goa scene see VAC

Xys: that would be an awesome event

VAC: because I think a lot of industrial ebm people would really dig goa

Xys: juno reactor, bypass unit

Last Sigh: what the FWK is goa?

Xys: a style of trance music

VAC: no its FWK [Fun With Knives]
VAC: it has some goa in it
VAC: but is not goa
VAC: juno is great, but you must go with beyond the infinite, or transmissions

Last Sigh: here is what my friend on icq said to me just now:
Last Sigh: "I heard that Bill refers to him now as 'Velveeta Acid Cheese"

VAC: bible of dreams is a bad intro to the band

Last Sigh: HHAHAHAAHAH, he is probably jealous of you!

VAC: back line disassembly

Xys: jealous because he thinks you're going to ruin his fame

Last Sigh: haha

VAC: and whats even funnier is that I dont sample other bands like Bill does, b Leeb is the puff daddy of industrial, and a lot of his fans dont know how shamelessly Bill samples, autechre, aphex twin, chem bros, etc.

Xys: yeah
Xys: especially for FLAvour

VAC: he samples Massive Attack sampling the Cure on Implode
VAC: its so cheesey
VAC: the Leeb VS erickson thing
VAC: actually
VAC: no matter how lame Bill Leeb is now, he once wrote killer CDs
VAC: and he was an influence

Xys: Disease: do you like Android Lust?

VAC: never heard it

Last Sigh: what about Numb?

VAC: Numb kicks FLA in the ass
VAC: Numb is what FLA should have been but failed to be

Last Sigh: my friend [on ICQ] likes: triphop, tribal, Digital hardcore stuff.

VAC: me too

Last Sigh: atari teenage
Last Sigh: alec empire

Xys: ec8or

Last Sigh: ec8or

Xys: is metro rereleasing calling and church?

VAC: just the back catalog of Pendragon [Records] yes
VAC: they are actually releasing it as metropolis not pendragon
VAC: I think that was in the deal
VAC: so VAC NOW IS ALL METRO in the future

Last Sigh: Thanks for doing this interview !

VAC: no problem
VAC: thank you for covering my project